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m §\t (§xttm\iQxm%\ \\ /V\ \>v -V ♦ !■ BY SHERWOOD & LONG. & jpamilg Netospaper-JBcbotetJ to literature, agriculture, Manufactures, (ttommercr, an* JttisceUaueous Keaoing. TERMS—12.00 IN ADVANCE. VOL. XXII. aEEENSBOEOTOH, 3ST. O, SEPTEMBER 14, I860. NO. 1104. I he LuensWorigU Patriot. ,. .. nWSWOOD. JAMES A. LOHQ. SHERWOOD & LONG, EIlITORS AND PROPRIETORS. TERMS: *i.OO A YEAR. I\ *Dt.t.\('E. RATES Of AMLRTIMNG ID HE PATRIOT. iljifi dollar [or MOWS t'..r ihefirsi we ;: MiS twenty-n'm foi every week thereafter. Twttvi taw 01 .... square Deduction!* made in favw of ter as folloir | 3 MONTH*. 6 'Hi.VI H8 i YEAB i :. ...:.• (3 50 •:• 60. W ■ 0 -;. . 7 00 1"1-. ... 14 OP •,.. •' 10 "" "" - • • -"''" S P K E <p H OF III I HON. S. A. DOUGLAS, At the Convention in Baleigb, Thursday August -lOth, 18'JO. -« Dr. Fox, on introducing Judge, Douglas, :• i • \; i . uf North Un i ■■• 11 ■ ■ 111it* yrta—tl : nt "' i I have nonor ol iti iducing to of Democratic icratic Na- . ded the people then, that the first serious point of controversy which ever arose be-tween the American colonies and the British government, was upon the slavery question. For more than seventy years previous to the Declaration of Independence, the colony ot Virginia asserted her right to control the question of slavery through her coiomal Leg-islature. During the early portion of that period the Virginians passed lavs to encour-age the introduction of slaves and to protect slavery in the colony, but after a while they found tlic number of slaves iucreasing in a greater ratio than the white people and being surrounded by large bands of hostile Indians they became alarmed, lest the savage Afri-cans, just introduced, should unite with the savage Indians surrounding the settlements, and exterminate the whites. In order to pre-vent a calamity so fearful, the colony of Vir-ginia parsed laws, adverse to the further in-troduction of slaves into that colonly. The British merchants then engaged in tho Afri-can slave-trade appealed to the King to an-nul the legislation of these few adventures in the colony ot Virginia. They set forth that they had a right as British subjects to move from England and carry with them their slaves as well as all their other property, and hold thorn in tho colonies without reference to the legislation of the Colonial Legislatures. The King, in council, sustained that claim, annull- ' more, forPresident j « ical legislation of Virginia, and in-tes i i America, the friend of I s'.ructeu .ts < lovernor not to allow any more ■ onstitution, aid the Union, I lav l',, s'tep'hcnA. Douglas, ol Illinois. t Three jslu dicers lor I louglas.) Mr Douglas said: Mr. President, I am con- .-<■...», s that you have, in the enthusiasm pro-duced by the circumstances with which we are surrounded to day done me more than justice in yroouurr jp> resentation to this audience. 1 thank you, Bir^sincerely for the kind terms in which you have been pleased to speak of me. I« is a matter of pride and pleasure to be pre-sented to the people of the Old North State, i.v a respresentative from Mecklinbarg.— (CbeerS.) History will always preserve the bets in North Carolina the first Declaration of Independence was proclaimed to tho world and that Mecklenburg has the honor ofbeing the county where tho gloriousjdeed was done. Carolinians have a right to bo proud of that great event in her history, but while you pride yourseves upon it, you oust remember that the sacred obligation rests upon you and your children to maintain inviolate the prin-ciples which that Declaration was intended to prepetuats. What was the grievance of which North Carolina compltiined, when she proclaimed to the world her separation from :!«•• British crown ? What the Grievance of which all the colonies complained,and what Were the objects they intended to accomplish by that Declaration ' Independence was not their motive. They did not desire separation from England. On the contaiy, tho first Con-tinental Congress that asscmjbled, and each successive one, until tho declaration was put forth, adopted an address to the crown, and to the people, and to the Parliament of Eng-land, affirming their devotion Ito the British people, tbeir devotion to the British Consti-tution and their loyality to the Crown of England. Tiny did not desire separation from the Mother country. Tbey demanded a redress ofgrievances under the British Con-ft.! ui ion and while they remained a part of the British empire. What were those griev-ances? You will find them in the hill of r: !.!- put forth by the first Continental Con- :-:■ -- which assembled in I7&1. In that bill ■ • ;nts, iho colonies proclaimed to the •• • .• remain a part of the !'• . em| icknowledged the right ut (-treat Britian in Parliament to make ali i . u .' liectctl the general welfare ol the i:. • •• without interfering with tli I a. i i. : ■ ■ ■† ii ■†:'. ■†i ■ i ulon ies i eki \. ■ i the right ol the British t •• .i. • • ilate .. lairs, I ■ make war and | ... commerce ana do those ".• •• • I' d I he eral welfare ol t. .• • • . Britian ; but tfiey dcclan d in i . '. ' • • I inies possessed t • ■ • power, iflegislation in I «• C'->l mial a urea over their domestic p • .. riiai io point upon which they • ciifieelifeif necessary— I ■ It j ivctiinieni In each colony • • ■ † - I their loe-il and domestic ■ rel ised to recognize i; . ■ i ur fathers would stir-rc'idi inod that they would r - ind even carry force to the )■ ■ ol a seperation IroirJ, and an entire Independence of, tircat Britian. It is im-portant, to bear this fact in mind, in or-der to determine precisely tho principles upon which our system ot government is founded. The British Parliament denied the right of the American colonies to regulate their internal affairs, because they said tnat thorn colonies posessed no other right than those which the Prince of England had gran-ted to them in their charters. Washington, and Jefferson, and Hancock and the heroes of tl at day. told the King that they did not get their rights from the Crown and they denied the power of the King or Parliament to take those rights away. The colonist claimed that the right oflocal self government was inher-ent in the people,derived from the Huler ot the Universe, the only power and jurisdiction of Kings and Parliaments. Upon this point the Revolution turned. This right of local self government as being inherent in the people was affirmed by the American Revolution.— The Constitution under which we live was made tor the purpose of confirming and per-petuating theliberties achieved by the Amer-can Revolution. The question now arises whether we-will maintain at this day those principles for which our fathers fought and which were secured to us by the sacrifices of the revolution. The Abolition party of the North some years ago, attempted to violate this great principle of self government in the territor-ies of the United State, by the application of the Wilmotproviso. They introduced into Congress a law for the purpese of prohibiting slavery everywhere in the territories of the United States, whethertbe people wanted it or not. The whole South, with a large por tion oi the Northern Democracy, resisted the Wilmot proviso as a violation ofthe right of >•■ .. government,at the same time that it was an usurpation ofpower by the federal govern. nteht In the discussion which took place. we . i ipposed the Wilmot proviso appealed t •.: ■ ' itionary struggle as furnishing : • 'rounds upon which we ought to resist the t it xibrence with the domestic affair: ct tuc peOple of the territories. Wo n. a f> be passed in 'he colony adverse to the e trade; but as late as 1772, only four years beiore the Declaration of Independence the Legislature of Virginia adopted a mem-orial to his Majesty, telling him that unless he granted to the colouly of Virginia, the right to control this question according to the interest of their own people, he would lose his dominions in America. Thus wo find that the controversy on the slavery question in the territories began seventy years before the revolutionary war, reached down to the beginning of the war itself, and led into the very contest which produced the final separ-ation. Each of the other colonies passed laws also regulating the question of slavery. You did it in North Carolina. Some of your laws protected it, some enceuraged it, and others discouraged it, just as you believed or rather your ancestors, that the interest of this colony required at the time. So it was with each of the New England colonies.— Some protected it, some invited it, others ex-cluded it altogather, and others regulated, it with a tendency rather against its encourage-ment; but the principle involved in that whole contest was the exclusive right of the people of each colony in the Colonial Legis-lature to regulate all their domestic affairs I that holds office under this Government. farmer, with a Virginia next to him, a New Yorker, a South Carolinian, and representa-tives from every State around him, tho whole Union being represented on a prairie by the farmers who ahve settled on it. In the course oftim i- the young people of this society begin to visit, and in a little while the North-Caro-linaboy sees a Yankee girl he likes, and his prejudices against her people begin to soften. (Laughter.) In a few years the Carolinian and the Connecticut peoplo arc united, the Virginia and the Pennsylvania, the Yankee and the slaveholder are united by ties of mar-riage, and blood, and friendship, and social in-ter course ; and when their children grow up, the child of the child of the samo parents has a grandfather in North Carolina, and another in Vermont; and that child does not like to hear either of those States abused. That child has a reverence for tho graves of his grand-fa-ther and grand-mothor in the good Old North State, and ho has tne same, revences for thr graves of his gjand-father and grand-mother in the valleys of Vermont; and wo will never consent that this Union shall be dissolved so that he will be compelled to obtain a passport and get i vised to enter a foreign land to visit the graves of his ancestors. You cannot sovere this Union unless you cut tho heart striDgs that bind father to son, daughter to mother and brother to sister in all our new States and Territories. (Cheers.) Besides the ties of blood and affection that bind us to each of the States, we have com-mercial intercoerse and pecuniary interests that we are not willing to surrender. Do you think that a citizen of Illinois will ever con-sent to pay duties at the custom house when ho ships hiscorn down the Mississippi to supply the people below ? Never on earth! We shall say to the Custom-house gate-keepers of the Mississippi river that we fur-nish the water that makes that great rivor, and we will follow it throughout its whole course to the Ocean, no matter who or what may stand before us. (Cries of "that's good.") So with the East—we are bound to tlie peo-ple of the East by the same ties of blood and kindred, and you can not sever this Union without blasting every hope and p;ospect that a Western man has on this earth. Then, having so deep a stake in the Union, we are determined to maintain it, and we know but one modo by which Tt can be maintained; that is to enforce rigidly and in good faith tvery clause, every line, every syllable, of the Con-stitution as our fathers made it and bequeath-ed it to us. (Cheers.) We do not stay to en-quire whether you in Raleigh or the Aboli-tionists up in Maine like every provision of that Constitution or not. It is enough for mo that our fathers made it. Every man to suit themselves, without the interference of the British government. I presume that no one present will controvert the correctness of this historical proposition. 1 have resisted the Wilmot proviso from the time of its first introduction into Congress down to this day, upon tho grounds that it violated the principle upon which our fathers fought the Revolutionary war. (Cheers.) If British subjects in the colonies before the Rev-olutionary war, were entitled to the iherent right of self government over their domestic affairs, I cannot see wy the same should not be guaranteed to the people of our territories sworn to protect it. Our children are brought up and educated under it, and they are early impressed with the injunction that they shall at all times yield a ready obedience to it. I am in favor of executing in good faith every clause and provision of the Constitution— (loud cheers)—and of protecting every right under it, (cheers) and then banging every man who takes up arms against it. (Contin-ued cheering.) Yes, my friends, I would hung every man higher than Haman who would attempt to resist by force the execu-tion of any provision of the Constitution which our lathers made and bequeathed to since tho revolution. (Applause.) I have never j us. (Loud cheers and voies—"that is South- ' ern enough lor us,"—"Yes, sir, that it is.") A gentleman behind me says that that senti-ment is Southern enough for him and for you. I do not go for tho Constitution because it is Southern or Northern, not because it is Eas-tern or because it is Western, but 1 go for it because my allegiance to the Constitution, my oath and ray duty, ray lovo for my chil-dren and my hope ot salvation in the future, makes it my sacred and boundon duty to vote for it and maintain it. (Loud cheers and hurrah for Douglas.) I claim no rights for my State that 1 will not concede to you and defend for you and for the whole South.— jet claimed for tho people of the American territories any other right, or higher right, than our fathers maintained at the point of the bayonet for the colonies prior to tho revo-lution. (Applause.) If an American citizen ol North Carolina, moving to a territory of the United States, is not entitled to as many rights of self government there as a British, subject before the revolution, lot me ask what did you gain by the sacrifices of that revolu-tion ! (Voices, "good" and applause.) Who are the people of the territories that thay arc not capable of self government ? You do not doubt that you citizens of North Carolina aro entirely competentto make laws for yourown i (Cheers.) I will accept no privileges for Illi-goverument. You do not doubt but what the [ nois that I will not permit to North Carolina, right ol sell government is an inherent right' and I claim no right in tho territories for my m North Carolina. It it an inherent right in ' citizens or for my property that I will not this State, let me ask you when you imigrate guarantee lor every other State in the Union, to Kansas, at what point of time do you for-1 I believe in the absolute and unconditional felt that right ? Do you loss all the sense, all the intelligence, all tho virtue you had upon > in. rating to a territory of the United, States ! No man doubts your capability lil you stay at home to decide for your-selves hat kind of laws, you will have in respect to negroes, as well as to white men. Art you any less capable after you have left your native land, and gone to a territory ?— Is there anything in the character ot the men who emigrate from their native valleys of the North-West that renders them less fit for si lfgovernmcnt than those who remain where they were born 1 Those of us who, in early life left the Old States, who penetrated into the wilderness, secured our own houso, mado our own larms, erected, school houses, aud churches, mado our own fences and split-our rails, (laughter,) think that we know what kind ot laws and institutions will snit our in-terest quito as well as you who never saw that country. (Vioces—"Right," and ap-plause.) We have quite as much interest >n the laws under which we aro to live as you have, who nover expect to go to that country and therefore, Lave no concern about our laws. These are the opinions of a North- Western man who has spo t his wholo life upon the frontier. You connot convince us that we are not as good as our brothers who remain in the Old States. I know there is something in the human mind that leads every one to suppose that his own birth place is the very centre of civilization, and that mere is nothing good beyond the range of his infant vision. Wiien I was a child, I thought that the mountains which surrounded the valley in which 1 was born were the confiuess ofciv-ilzation ; my vision was limited by them, and I fancied beyond the boundary there was no-thing but border ruffians and outside barbar-ians. When, hower, 1 crossed them and got into the next valley, I found were just as good people there as 1 had left behind me, and, so with the next and every step I took, from the east towards the setting sun, unloosened and shook off unjust prejudice. Ignorance has fixed around other people prejudices similar to those I then had. We in tbe North-Wost have much more respect for you than you have lor us. We love you detter thau you do us. He love this union better than you do, in consequences which surroud us. You go into one of our new settlements—in .Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois, or any of any of them-and there you will find that a North Carolinian equality of all tho States of the Confederacy. (Applause.) But I claim that I have the right to go to tho territories and to carry my property with me and hold it there, and to nave it protected on the same terms that you have in the slaveholding States. ("Good.") But upon what terms, 1 ask, can I carry my property into tho territories ? I carry it there subject to the local law. If I am a dea. ler in cattle, in horses, in sheep, in stock of of any kind, 1 carry my property subject to the law. If I am a dealer in dry goods, 1 go to tho territories subject to the local law. If I find the local tax heavier on peddlers than on the regular merchants, I must either pay tho tax or quit peddling. ("Good, that's right.") If I am a dealer in groceries and li-quors, i must carry my liquors there subject to the local law, and I had better enquire what that local law is before I start, and if, on enquiry, I ascertain that the Maine liquor law is in force there, I think I had better car-ry my liquor somewhere else, and seek a bet-ter market for it. (Good.) The Northern man goes into the territories with his proper-ty subject to the local laws of the territories as the people may have made those laws through their local legislatures. Are you not willing to go on the same terms? (Cries of "yes, we were always willing— we never askod more.") Do you claim more than is granted to us? ("No.no.") You may go there also and carry your slaves with you subject to the local laws in the same wav that 1 can carry my goods. Equality ot rights \, the principle, and obedience to the local law is the only condition upon which any man can go into the territories of tbe United States with safety. 1 know that there is a class of politicians who are in the habit of tell-ing you that Congress will not grant you pro-tection for your slave property in the terri-tories, aud Congress will not. When did simple right of every people to make their own laws, and establish their own constitu-tions according to their own interests, with-out interference from any person outside their own borders—that is all it is. Is not that a sound principle ? Why there are two classes of politicians who tell you that it is very unsound. Who ara they? First, the Northern Abolitionist and Black Republican think it very unsond. Tbey assert that it is the duty of Congress to prohibit slavery wher ever the people want it. That is the doc-trine of the Abolitionists. Tbey are in favor of Congress prohibiting it wherever it is ne-cessary, and they say that wherever it is not necessary tbe people do not want it, and that there the peoplo will exclude it themselves. Hence it is only necessary to say they are for Congress to prohibit and exclude slavery wherever the people do want it. There is another class of politicians who are in favor of Congress interfering in favor of slavery wherever necessary. They aro not lor inter-vention, however, except when necessary — When do they hold intervention necessary? Why it is clear that it is unnecessary to inter-fore to protect slavery where tho people are in favor of if, for in that case, they will pass laws to protect it themselves. For instance, New Mexico was in favor of slavery, and hence tho people, two years ago, passed a law in their local legislature establishing a very efficient slavo code, protecting slavery in tho territory. Honco, it is not necessary in the estimation of Southern Secessionists, to pro-tect it there, for the people wanting it will have it, and will protect it themselves. It is only necessary, they say, for Congress to in-terfere and protect slavery wherever the peo-ple do not want it, and therefore will not protect it themselves. Thus you find that in this country there are two parties in favor of federal intervention. The Black Republi-cans of the North and the Secessionists and Disunionistu of tho South agree in respect to the power and duty of Congress to control the slavery question in the territories. They agree that Congress ma}- control it and that the people of territory ought not to be per-mitted to do so. Agreeing that far, they differ on this point, as to what way Congress ought to control it. While the Northern fa-natics say that Congress must control the question as against the South, the Southern Secessionists say it must be controlled as against the North. Each party appeals to the passions, the prejudices, the ambition of bis own section, against the peace and har-mony of the whole eountry. Now. suppose you acquiesced in tbe demand of this South-ern Secessionist party and allov I ihctn to rally the whole people of till tin Southern States under a Southern intervention and suppose wo Democrats ol the Nor h should be craven-spirited enough to yield to the demand of a dominant majority in our own section, and join in the cry of Northern intervention against slavery, and then rally every Northern man under that banner.— Then you have two sections of this Union sep-arated, with a broad line between them, eve-ry Southern man on one side, and every Northern man on the other, both abusing each other. Now, what is your Union worth after that is accomplished ? Remember that tho Union cannot survive the affections of tho people, upon whom it rests. Whenever you have alienated the Northern and South-ern men, whenevoryou have separated them so far that they cannot belong to the same political party and the same church, and can-not commune in tho House of God at the same communion table, your Union is very nearly dissolved. This sectionolism has reached this point. It has reached the House of God, and separated tho members of the same church. That good old church within which I was born and Teared, tho old church in which my father and mother, my grand-father and my grandmother, and my ances ters for many generations were in the habit of communing, separated into a church North and South, and when we travel from one side of the lino to tho other, we aro not permitted to go to the communion table. And what has produced this estrangement ? It is the agitation of tho slavery question in the halls of Congress. What good has been accom-plished for any body by the agitation ? what beuefit has been conferred on the white man '! what benefit has been conferred on the black man by this agitation ? it has alienated friend irom friend ; you have rallied section against section by it; you have spread mis-chief, and dissension, and heart-burnings, without any redeeming or corresponding ad-vantage. What is the remedy for this state of things ? I answer, the remedy is to ban-ish tho slavery question from the halls of Congress ; remand it to the people of the ter-ritories and of the States. Let tho people make just such laws as they choose, so that they do not violate the Constitution of tho country. If they should pass a law in viola-tion ot the Constitution, the Supremo Court is tho only tribunal on earth that can ascertain and decide that fact. (Applause.) If you go to a territory, and when you get there you do not like tbeir laws, and you think that a particular statute is unconstitutional, all vou have to do is, to make out a case under the law as to have the question tried in tbe ter-ritorial courts, appeal to the Supreme Court of tho United States, and there get your case decided, and if the court decide that the law is unconstitutional, there is an end of it—it cannot bo enforced. On the contrary, if it be Clodded that the statute complained of is constitutional, it must stand till the peoplo of the territories get tired of it, and uavi enough to change it. If the peopli n territories make oad laws, let them suri der them till thoy get wise enough to make good ones, il they make good laws, let enjoy all the avvantages ot tbeir good law Let us act upon this principle, and there can ' be peace between the North and the South. I affirm to you that the Democratic party is pledged by its honor, its organization, its plat-form and its principles, to this doctrine of non-intervention by Congress with slavery in the territories. (Applause.) What man will America, except among tbe Black Republi-cans of the North. I appeal to you, my fel-low- citizens ot North Carolina, without dis-tinction of party, to tell mo whether every Democratic speaker in tho Stato did not tell you that your rights, your honor, your equal-ity in the Union, depended upon maintaining the doctrine of non-intervention by Congress with the question of slavery, as affirmed in the Democratic platform ? Now they tell you that this doctrine, which they taught you to believe, and making you believe, to carry the State by a large majority for Buchanan, they now tell you that this doctrine, taught and preached lour yours ago, is little better than Black Republicanism. I stand to-day, where I stood when these Secessionists eulo-gised mo as the best friend the South ever had. "(That's so.") I defy them to show where I have changed a hair's breadth, and wh'jn I have heretofore defied them face to face to show it, the only answer they could make was, that I was too consistent and would not change. (Laughter and applause.) No, I would not change merely because pres-idents and caucuses, hacked by extensive pa-tronage, said that I must. (Applause and cries of "good."—"that's right.") It is as much my right aud duty to think and judge myself as it is for the President to do it for himself. (Right.) I do not recognise the right of tho executive department to interfere with the action or speech of any member of the Senate or member of the Mouse of Rep-resentatives. (Applause.) So long as the President chooses to confine himself to the performance of his duties in obedience to tho Constitution, I will sustain him to the utmost in his right to a free and independent action. But whenever the Executive is permitted to say to a Senator or a Representative of a sov-ereign State, abandon your convictions, be-tray your constituents, do as I say, or 1 will remove yoc from office, and behead every friend you Lave in office throughout the coun tr}-; whenever it is permitted to do that with impunity, 'hen the Republic is but a sham and a mockesry. (Applause.) There is no freedom, there can be no liberty, when the representative of the people is not responsi-ble to his constituents instead of to executive power. (A voice—"It is despotism.") Yes, the worst of all despotisms is when the Exe-cutive can say to a man, violate your con-science, bo tray your constituents, and follow me, or I will remove from office every f.iend you have got. and defeat you at home through executive patronage. I speak with sorno feeling on the subject. (Applause.) I have had some experience. I have been under the necessity in my lifetime of lighting Abolition is'.s and Black Republicans, aided and sup-ported by ■ Democratic administration with power and patronage. For three yei every federal office-holder in Illinois has been required to oppose the Democratic aud support the Black Republican ticket, as pie to do just as they pleased both sides of 36° 30'. I assert that if tho people of a Ter-ritory want slavery they have a right to it, if they do not want it, no power on earth should force it on them. I go further and say that whether tbe people will want it or not, depends solely upon the climate, the soil, the productions and the self-interest of the peo-ple where it exists. In a hot climate where tho white man cannot work in tho open sun, where Rice, tho Cotton plant and tho Sugar cano flourish there, you must have negro slaves to work them or you must abandon the country to the crocodile. In a cold cli-mate where you have almost perpetual snow and where the nrgro could not produce by his labor halt as much as would feed and clothe him and furnish him wood to bake his hoecake at night, you cannot force slavery to exist, because it will not pay for itself. Slav-ery, therefore, does not depend upon the law. It is governed by climate, soil and productions by political economy, and you might as well attempt to pass laws by Congress compelling Cotton to grow on the summit of the H >cky mountains, or rice to llouriib on tho granite hills of Now Hampshire. (Laughter ami ap of tho Carolina?. They knew thai th" regu-lations noccssary in a ininning district like California would In- unsuued to the wheat and corn fields of lllinoi-. Hence tbey pr<»- vided that each State should retain us own sovereignty, with a Logmlature of itsowo, in order that each might have just such laws as it chose. This right, therofore, of each State to have laws different from every other one, lies at the very foundation of our system of government. Uniformity, regardleus of tho wants & conditions of tbo people, is the worst dispolism you can inflict upon any peo, le Well, the Abolitionists of tho North and the Secessionists of the South, admit that th,. doctrine of tho right of each Stato to regu-late and decide for itself, is a good doctrine iu the States, but will not do in the Territories. They admit that in the States you have an inherent right to govern j'ourselves, but you lose it when yor. go to the territories. Why not allows Territory to do it as well as s Stale. Why, they tell you that a Territory is not a sovereign power, und therofore rau-not do it; that Done out sovereign power* have a right to «X< the privileges of seli-govenunenL Our farhers of the revolution plause,) as slavery to exist where it cannot did not thinks* dutionary straggle in defence oi the right of dependent • olonies, dependent territories, dnpnn'dstllj possibly exi.-t. (Applause.) ! toll you that wherever climate renders slavery necc there it will go, and furthermore, tin; p il ■ of a territory will be the first to introduce it and pass all Laws for iis protection, but when-ever the climate renders it unprofitable and no money can he made out it' it, there yon cannot force il to go, I care not how many you have, or how many armies to enforce those laws. Hence I said in my Freepori sp eel, that no matter bow the Court might d< i ids the abstract act, that practically slavery will not go where tho peoplo do not warn it, for it would not be praticable. That is what I said, ami that is all I said, and thai has been tortured into a declaration liiat 1 would noi obey the decisions of the Supreme Court i I the United Stales. I iik- to bi charilab! but I believe that he, let hirn be w.ioliemay, who has represented me as saying I would not obey the Dred Scott decision, or any other decision of the Supreme Court, did know that ho was perverting and misrepre Benting my whole idea. (Cries of "good" and applause.) I have made more speeches than any living man in the defence of the Dred Scott decision astoronouneed by the Court, and I am as ready as any man toenfoico the decrees of the Court and to put the halter aroun i the neck ol all men who wish to rev u-tiiuted au thoriti i le land. [Groal applause. A voice, "Hura for Douglas *) i Jo not desire to be misunderstood on luese questions. I am being hunted down by a bodj ol men who four years ago endorsed mo, every man ot them knowing that 1 held the same opinions then that 1 iio now. There is not a living man with intelligence enough to venture away a condition to holding his office, and even yet lrom homo alone who does not know that 1 in tho Northern States, and from one end of1 the land to the other, every office-holder is removed, unless he works against the regu-1 lar organization ot the party. You aro told now that there is danger of Sir. Lincoln being elected President, and that his election would have held these sentiments foi years. (Cries of "good," laughter and applause.") 1 have come down here now to meet you lace to face and to utter these opinions just as 1 expressed them in the Northern Stales; and ill order to prevent them lrom misrepresenting me any be such a calamity that it would become your j more, 1 have invited a friend of minet) take duty to dissolve the Union rather than sub-mit to his domination. What hope ot an election has Mr. Lincoln ? None on earth, except through the assistance rendered by the Seceders at Baltimore. (Cheers and cries of "good.") After I was nominated there ac-cording to the usages cf the party, by two-thirds of all the votes cast, there being pres-ent two-thirds of the .electoral college not ob-jecting, these men bolted and got up a new convention. Now let me ask you, is there a down every word and syllable as it falls from my lips and without any revision or my see-ing it, to hand it over to your papers here, if they will publish it, in order that the people North and South may sec whether I do not explain my doctrines in the South precisely as 1 have explained them in tho North. A Voice. We have no organ here but one. .Mr. Duuylas. It is stated that ray friends have no organ here, but one. I do not care how often I may make man in America who doubts that I would speeches in the Senate correcting the misrep-have beaten Lincoln, if the Breckinridgc men resentations, they aro never published h had acquiesced in my nomination? (Ap-plause.) Nobody doubts that Lincoln could never have carried but two States in the Un-ion, Vermont and Massachusetts, but for that Occasion. What was their object in bolting? Was it not to beat me ? (Voices, "yes.") If it was did they not know that the only way to do it was to divide the D ere. Why ? Certain gentlemen have made charges to the contrary, and it would convict them if it acquitted me. I hold no opinions on these public questions that I wish io conceal any.vhere, for I hold that so long as we live uodi :• a constitution w Inch is common to all the States of the Union, any political creed e tne Democratic party is radically wrong which cannot be avowed in the Northern States and allow Lincoln to i alike id all the States oi this Union. carry each one of those States by a minority j Why cannot you of the South and the vote ? The secession took place for the pur-' North, live in peace together nnder this con-pese ot defeating me and by the party electing Lincoln. the division in There was not a man ot liiem engaged in the scheme wiio did not expect that bis act was to elect Lincoln. There could be no other expectation, no oth-er motive, no other hope, and I have never seen a man yet who would risk his reputa-by denying that Li stitution, as our fathers made it? reason is that I hen - i ittempt to ■ uniformity, through action ol the Federal Government in the local and domestic insti-tutions of lii- States. Mr. Abraham Lincoln, now the Black Republican candidate for the Psesident, when some two years agoa candi-tion by Lincoln would l.ave date for tiic United Slates Senate against, me. been beaten but tor this division and that the i commenced hi.-| ipening s.ieech with this pi op-danger ot his election grows out of it. Then ' osition. 1 will try to give Ins precise Ian, how do they justify their course ? Why they i guage, or as near as lean from recollection, say it is better to have Lincoln elected than ; and 1 believel have quoted the passage a Douglas. Why? Why, they do not like thousand times lie said,'-that a house divi- Douglas. They do not like his platform.— del against itself cannot stand, this govern Why do they not like the platform ? Because ' mint divided into free and slave Stales can- I stand now on the very platform on which they stood four years ago. And what confi-dence can you have in the integrity, in the truthfulness, in the honor of a .nan who will abuse the Charleston platform now, alter he supported it four years ago? Were they cheat-ing you then ! Wero '.hey deceiving you at that time to get your votes ? If they were, how much confidence should you place in them now ? (Cheers.) If they wero honest then, it does not become them to abuse those of us who do not change quite as rapidly as they have done. (Great applause.) I stand now where I then stood. I stand where I Stood when I brought forward the bill to re the Missouri restriction and organize the I Kansas and Nebraska. They aud do not pretend that 1 have ohang- But they have started a story I learn. down here that I went home and d the Nebraska bill in a different Congress ever pass a law to protect any par-ticular class of property in the territories?— j be bold enough to deny the fact that"every Congress never yet passed a criminal code for | Democrat in America up to the present year, an organized territory on the American con- j was pledged to tho doctrine of non-interven- tinent. Murder is a crime in the territories, | tion ? Read tho platform of tho party that nominated Cass iu 184S, Pierce in 1852, and Buchanan in 1856. Thore you find tho doc-not under any act of Congress, but by the territorial law. And so with every crime against the person or property of a citizen, I trine of non-intervention by Congress with no matter where. You are told that this is ■ slavery- in the territories of the United States Squatter Sovereignty. Just such Squatter i Is this not so ? What then has produced this Sovereignty as was established in North Car- j sudden change? Non-intervention was a orllna by the men who put forth tho Declar- I good doctrine four years ago-intorvention w,., unu imu a xonn Carolinian ation of Independence, and drove the agents is necessary now. Four years ago there was settled down by the side ot a Cnonecticut of George 111 from the continent. It is the no intervention with the slavery question fn not permanently endure, that either Slavery must oe extended to all the States or it must be plan d in the course ol ultimate extinction in all the Statos, they must become all tree or all slavo." Now, that was his proposition. I replied to that speech the moment 1 got home. I took bold issue with Mm, and made the can-vass ol" Illinois, on that proposition and oi e other. Tho other was, be assailed the Su reme Court decision, in th.- L)r d Scott case, ire luo two is battle. Mr Sewaiilinadelii.se. ebl I ..—ter speech four months afterward iu .Inch he pat forth the doo«rine ol the irreprcssibl conflict, bor-rowing it from Lincoln, n*l ..s the aathoi and ci.unc rator of thai pri cinle, that "the 1 nion cannot exist, divided into free and slave Slates, but must become all free, or all The Blu-k Republican party is based i and 1 defended it. 'fI sues, upon which v. fi stave I had South, and said that it on the theory of making them all freeSta the Secesson party ia based on ihe thi >rv that tho Territories and consequently tl.. States must all bo slave, whether the people want them so or not. I hold to the doctrine that uniformity in the domestic inatitutions of the different States is neither possible or desirable. Slavery may bo good in one place was the beet abolition bill ever got up to pro-hibit slavery everywhere. I have tried to find out where I ever mado such a speech, but ihose who made tho charge do not name the place. I now say that no honest man will ever make such a charge: (Cheers.) It is an invention of the enemy, and has been circulated by the mean author who knew it to be false or had no reasan for believing it to be true. (Applause.) 1 will tell you what explanation I havo mado in every Northern State of my motives for passing tbe the Ne-braska bill and repealing the Missouri Com-promise. I have sustained that act by tho argument that if slavery was right South, it was right North, if it was right to leave tho people to do as thoy pleased South ot tho Missouri Compromise line, it was right North of tho line. My object was to allow the peo-and bad in another. It may be necessary ii one State,and unnecessary in another Anil bo with every Other domestic institution.— Our fathers knew whin they made this gov- i eminent that in ■ country as broad as this, I with such a variety of soil, of climate, and of ' productions, there must necessarily be a cor-responding variety ot interests requiring sep-arate and different laws in each locality. They knew that the laws which would "suit tho granite hills of New Hampshire would bo unsuitod to the rico and tobacco plantations provinces, to exercise tbia right ol self-eminent M well as sovereign Suites. None but the Tories of the revolution ever comer-tied before that the right ot sell-govoriimeiii was to Oe restricted to sovereign Stales.-— Qeorgetho Third and Lord North, his Mm-isier, and his Tory friends on this continent, all denied the right ol the people el these colonies to regulate their own affairs. Tbei all said that tho people of the colonies had no rights except those the King granted them in tbeir character. Tho same old doctrine. Our lathers ot the Revolution told the Tories thai they di lot get their rights from the King, !>ui i y got them from l«od Almighty. lice, "a better source.") And the people or the Territories will be likely to tell you th.\ they do not get their rights from Con-;re*s, they get them from a purier source. (Laugh-ter and applause.) From what I have said you will see that unless lam right in main-taining this principle of selt-governmeuit foi the people of the territories, ..ur fathers of the revolution must have been w oi.g in that «t niggle. Therei« no ue irgumcnt u <■■! v the Bcceasioi i t- ngainl aqua I r novelt'lgo ty,"a- they leriu t, that they have not co pied from the tories el the revolution in al-most its identical language. (Voice, "good," upplaus**.) But of course these gentle-men are very sincere in denouncing this doc-trine of r jn-interfenc by Congress. I wish they had been frank enough to dentmnce it before tuey hud joined me in helping Io sus-tain it. Tiioy knew when they adopted the Cincinnati plaifora that toil ws •• Read that plailorm. it dec i words, non interfiraos byCon very in ihe States and 'IV i—tor,every friend 1 had fron 'h »\ esi offered to take the < , , mi word t .-r word, as it read. Th * J not take it. Tbey aaid il was not goo : D - mocracy. How oasM lha ■ form to '•" uiloptcd in IKiO, if it was uot sound ? You know that it was adopted at the suggestion of the Ala-bama Legislature, on four proposi-tionsdrawn by Mr. Yancey, and wheii'introdu-ced into the Cincinnati Convention, received tho votes of delegates from every State in tho . Unien, free and slave. The South proposed it, aud we of the North said it is fair and just, and we will take it. It was a loptcd by a unanimous vote, and four years after, you are told that a man is a trailer to tho South who stands by the pledgo wo all made at Cinci-nnati. There is something strange about this. 1 cannot change as rapidly as that — (Applause.) If the Democratic party will stand now where they did then, there would bo no trouble. In order to get out of the scrape, these men havo turned round and charged me with having said I would not stand by thj Dred Boott decision. 1 tell hen now that en r make* that, charge hereafter will km bait falsifying the truth. Th«n, whal is tbecauseof ihe*trooMe in the Den. ici rtj ' it is an attsMB to introduce a new article of faith into the Democratic creed, in direct violation of tin former creed cf tho party. Itis an attempt t ingain introduce this slavery question i • tho balls nt Congress, and have Congrats de-cide it So long as that question remains in Congre.-s. there never will be peace; and if we expect to live together, we must agree to banish this whole subject lrom Congrats, re-mand it to the people interested HI it, andb I the Supremo Court explain the Constitution in reference to snob caseasitarisos; then we will have peace. A gentleman here said : There is in tho inintisof a largo portion ol the conservatiro people ol the Southern States an apprehei-sion that iho purpose ot a certain class ol ex-treme poliMcians ot tbe South, is to provoke a division of tho Democratic party upon tins question of the plailorm for the purpose of* electing Lincoln and thereby, without tut overt act on his part, effect a disolution tl the Union. I desire to atk Judge Doupla respectful,, to give to the audience all i evidence bebas in reference to thw parpu* oi these parties, and as we have heard that h was called out ul Norfolk, by Un Elector ■ the Sec.deis ticket, to giv« his opinion* I his course at a Senator in the event of silt'. dissolution, wo desire In a lo repeat it heie. as we intend to ask Mr lire e kin ridge wbai his course would be also, being a Senator ol the United States after the I'.i '.it March, I860. Mr. Douglas, i pen the point presented i i the first suggestion : 1 have no evidence in respect to the designs and purposes ol tho Seceders. which I am in libertt to IIS", ex-cept that .'■ bicb is known to the wiol rnrl 1 know thai Lincoin bat DO ■ \, ow ol ho| . • i be ,, , ; Kinndge men succeed in d . orasio party, and en by el. a mii.on y vote that 1 .si.on..,.. . ., that I rcckiuridg ing, on tneotii i. , :. should decline IIMI 1U, , would b elected. i'»h>, u.en the track, unless it is iu'al Lincoln elected. Then tbo tirst lime 1 placed my foot on Virginia soil during this canvass, I am asked by tbo head man on tho Electoral ticket—the man who leads the tit ket—whs er, in the event of Lincoln being elected, the Southern Slates would be jus-tied in diasolv-ing tho Union ; and whether 1 would go for enforcing tho law in tho event of the Southern ,.■..- . ■ uiuy he
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Title | The Greensborough patriot [September 14, 1860] |
Date | 1860-09-14 |
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Sherwood, M.S. Long, James A. |
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S P K E resentation to this audience. 1 thank you, Bir^sincerely for the kind terms in which you have been pleased to speak of me. I« is a matter of pride and pleasure to be pre-sented to the people of the Old North State, i.v a respresentative from Mecklinbarg.— (CbeerS.) History will always preserve the bets in North Carolina the first Declaration of Independence was proclaimed to tho world and that Mecklenburg has the honor ofbeing the county where tho gloriousjdeed was done. Carolinians have a right to bo proud of that great event in her history, but while you pride yourseves upon it, you oust remember that the sacred obligation rests upon you and your children to maintain inviolate the prin-ciples which that Declaration was intended to prepetuats. What was the grievance of which North Carolina compltiined, when she proclaimed to the world her separation from :!«•• British crown ? What the Grievance of which all the colonies complained,and what Were the objects they intended to accomplish by that Declaration ' Independence was not their motive. They did not desire separation from England. On the contaiy, tho first Con-tinental Congress that asscmjbled, and each successive one, until tho declaration was put forth, adopted an address to the crown, and to the people, and to the Parliament of Eng-land, affirming their devotion Ito the British people, tbeir devotion to the British Consti-tution and their loyality to the Crown of England. Tiny did not desire separation from the Mother country. Tbey demanded a redress ofgrievances under the British Con-ft.! ui ion and while they remained a part of the British empire. What were those griev-ances? You will find them in the hill of r: !.!- put forth by the first Continental Con- :-:■ -- which assembled in I7&1. In that bill ■ • ;nts, iho colonies proclaimed to the •• • .• remain a part of the !'• . em| icknowledged the right ut (-treat Britian in Parliament to make ali i . u .' liectctl the general welfare ol the i:. • •• without interfering with tli I a. i i. : ■ ■ ■† ii ■†:'. ■†i ■ i ulon ies i eki \. ■ i the right ol the British t •• .i. • • ilate .. lairs, I ■ make war and | ... commerce ana do those ".• •• • I' d I he eral welfare ol t. .• • • . Britian ; but tfiey dcclan d in i . '. ' • • I inies possessed t • ■ • power, iflegislation in I «• C'->l mial a urea over their domestic p • .. riiai io point upon which they • ciifieelifeif necessary— I ■ It j ivctiinieni In each colony • • ■ † - I their loe-il and domestic ■ rel ised to recognize i; . ■ i ur fathers would stir-rc'idi inod that they would r - ind even carry force to the )■ ■ ol a seperation IroirJ, and an entire Independence of, tircat Britian. It is im-portant, to bear this fact in mind, in or-der to determine precisely tho principles upon which our system ot government is founded. The British Parliament denied the right of the American colonies to regulate their internal affairs, because they said tnat thorn colonies posessed no other right than those which the Prince of England had gran-ted to them in their charters. Washington, and Jefferson, and Hancock and the heroes of tl at day. told the King that they did not get their rights from the Crown and they denied the power of the King or Parliament to take those rights away. The colonist claimed that the right oflocal self government was inher-ent in the people,derived from the Huler ot the Universe, the only power and jurisdiction of Kings and Parliaments. Upon this point the Revolution turned. This right of local self government as being inherent in the people was affirmed by the American Revolution.— The Constitution under which we live was made tor the purpose of confirming and per-petuating theliberties achieved by the Amer-can Revolution. The question now arises whether we-will maintain at this day those principles for which our fathers fought and which were secured to us by the sacrifices of the revolution. The Abolition party of the North some years ago, attempted to violate this great principle of self government in the territor-ies of the United State, by the application of the Wilmotproviso. They introduced into Congress a law for the purpese of prohibiting slavery everywhere in the territories of the United States, whethertbe people wanted it or not. The whole South, with a large por tion oi the Northern Democracy, resisted the Wilmot proviso as a violation ofthe right of >•■ .. government,at the same time that it was an usurpation ofpower by the federal govern. nteht In the discussion which took place. we . i ipposed the Wilmot proviso appealed t •.: ■ ' itionary struggle as furnishing : • 'rounds upon which we ought to resist the t it xibrence with the domestic affair: ct tuc peOple of the territories. Wo n. a f> be passed in 'he colony adverse to the e trade; but as late as 1772, only four years beiore the Declaration of Independence the Legislature of Virginia adopted a mem-orial to his Majesty, telling him that unless he granted to the colouly of Virginia, the right to control this question according to the interest of their own people, he would lose his dominions in America. Thus wo find that the controversy on the slavery question in the territories began seventy years before the revolutionary war, reached down to the beginning of the war itself, and led into the very contest which produced the final separ-ation. Each of the other colonies passed laws also regulating the question of slavery. You did it in North Carolina. Some of your laws protected it, some enceuraged it, and others discouraged it, just as you believed or rather your ancestors, that the interest of this colony required at the time. So it was with each of the New England colonies.— Some protected it, some invited it, others ex-cluded it altogather, and others regulated, it with a tendency rather against its encourage-ment; but the principle involved in that whole contest was the exclusive right of the people of each colony in the Colonial Legis-lature to regulate all their domestic affairs I that holds office under this Government. farmer, with a Virginia next to him, a New Yorker, a South Carolinian, and representa-tives from every State around him, tho whole Union being represented on a prairie by the farmers who ahve settled on it. In the course oftim i- the young people of this society begin to visit, and in a little while the North-Caro-linaboy sees a Yankee girl he likes, and his prejudices against her people begin to soften. (Laughter.) In a few years the Carolinian and the Connecticut peoplo arc united, the Virginia and the Pennsylvania, the Yankee and the slaveholder are united by ties of mar-riage, and blood, and friendship, and social in-ter course ; and when their children grow up, the child of the child of the samo parents has a grandfather in North Carolina, and another in Vermont; and that child does not like to hear either of those States abused. That child has a reverence for tho graves of his grand-fa-ther and grand-mothor in the good Old North State, and ho has tne same, revences for thr graves of his gjand-father and grand-mother in the valleys of Vermont; and wo will never consent that this Union shall be dissolved so that he will be compelled to obtain a passport and get i vised to enter a foreign land to visit the graves of his ancestors. You cannot sovere this Union unless you cut tho heart striDgs that bind father to son, daughter to mother and brother to sister in all our new States and Territories. (Cheers.) Besides the ties of blood and affection that bind us to each of the States, we have com-mercial intercoerse and pecuniary interests that we are not willing to surrender. Do you think that a citizen of Illinois will ever con-sent to pay duties at the custom house when ho ships hiscorn down the Mississippi to supply the people below ? Never on earth! We shall say to the Custom-house gate-keepers of the Mississippi river that we fur-nish the water that makes that great rivor, and we will follow it throughout its whole course to the Ocean, no matter who or what may stand before us. (Cries of "that's good.") So with the East—we are bound to tlie peo-ple of the East by the same ties of blood and kindred, and you can not sever this Union without blasting every hope and p;ospect that a Western man has on this earth. Then, having so deep a stake in the Union, we are determined to maintain it, and we know but one modo by which Tt can be maintained; that is to enforce rigidly and in good faith tvery clause, every line, every syllable, of the Con-stitution as our fathers made it and bequeath-ed it to us. (Cheers.) We do not stay to en-quire whether you in Raleigh or the Aboli-tionists up in Maine like every provision of that Constitution or not. It is enough for mo that our fathers made it. Every man to suit themselves, without the interference of the British government. I presume that no one present will controvert the correctness of this historical proposition. 1 have resisted the Wilmot proviso from the time of its first introduction into Congress down to this day, upon tho grounds that it violated the principle upon which our fathers fought the Revolutionary war. (Cheers.) If British subjects in the colonies before the Rev-olutionary war, were entitled to the iherent right of self government over their domestic affairs, I cannot see wy the same should not be guaranteed to the people of our territories sworn to protect it. Our children are brought up and educated under it, and they are early impressed with the injunction that they shall at all times yield a ready obedience to it. I am in favor of executing in good faith every clause and provision of the Constitution— (loud cheers)—and of protecting every right under it, (cheers) and then banging every man who takes up arms against it. (Contin-ued cheering.) Yes, my friends, I would hung every man higher than Haman who would attempt to resist by force the execu-tion of any provision of the Constitution which our lathers made and bequeathed to since tho revolution. (Applause.) I have never j us. (Loud cheers and voies—"that is South- ' ern enough lor us,"—"Yes, sir, that it is.") A gentleman behind me says that that senti-ment is Southern enough for him and for you. I do not go for tho Constitution because it is Southern or Northern, not because it is Eas-tern or because it is Western, but 1 go for it because my allegiance to the Constitution, my oath and ray duty, ray lovo for my chil-dren and my hope ot salvation in the future, makes it my sacred and boundon duty to vote for it and maintain it. (Loud cheers and hurrah for Douglas.) I claim no rights for my State that 1 will not concede to you and defend for you and for the whole South.— jet claimed for tho people of the American territories any other right, or higher right, than our fathers maintained at the point of the bayonet for the colonies prior to tho revo-lution. (Applause.) If an American citizen ol North Carolina, moving to a territory of the United States, is not entitled to as many rights of self government there as a British, subject before the revolution, lot me ask what did you gain by the sacrifices of that revolu-tion ! (Voices, "good" and applause.) Who are the people of the territories that thay arc not capable of self government ? You do not doubt that you citizens of North Carolina aro entirely competentto make laws for yourown i (Cheers.) I will accept no privileges for Illi-goverument. You do not doubt but what the [ nois that I will not permit to North Carolina, right ol sell government is an inherent right' and I claim no right in tho territories for my m North Carolina. It it an inherent right in ' citizens or for my property that I will not this State, let me ask you when you imigrate guarantee lor every other State in the Union, to Kansas, at what point of time do you for-1 I believe in the absolute and unconditional felt that right ? Do you loss all the sense, all the intelligence, all tho virtue you had upon > in. rating to a territory of the United, States ! No man doubts your capability lil you stay at home to decide for your-selves hat kind of laws, you will have in respect to negroes, as well as to white men. Art you any less capable after you have left your native land, and gone to a territory ?— Is there anything in the character ot the men who emigrate from their native valleys of the North-West that renders them less fit for si lfgovernmcnt than those who remain where they were born 1 Those of us who, in early life left the Old States, who penetrated into the wilderness, secured our own houso, mado our own larms, erected, school houses, aud churches, mado our own fences and split-our rails, (laughter,) think that we know what kind ot laws and institutions will snit our in-terest quito as well as you who never saw that country. (Vioces—"Right," and ap-plause.) We have quite as much interest >n the laws under which we aro to live as you have, who nover expect to go to that country and therefore, Lave no concern about our laws. These are the opinions of a North- Western man who has spo t his wholo life upon the frontier. You connot convince us that we are not as good as our brothers who remain in the Old States. I know there is something in the human mind that leads every one to suppose that his own birth place is the very centre of civilization, and that mere is nothing good beyond the range of his infant vision. Wiien I was a child, I thought that the mountains which surrounded the valley in which 1 was born were the confiuess ofciv-ilzation ; my vision was limited by them, and I fancied beyond the boundary there was no-thing but border ruffians and outside barbar-ians. When, hower, 1 crossed them and got into the next valley, I found were just as good people there as 1 had left behind me, and, so with the next and every step I took, from the east towards the setting sun, unloosened and shook off unjust prejudice. Ignorance has fixed around other people prejudices similar to those I then had. We in tbe North-Wost have much more respect for you than you have lor us. We love you detter thau you do us. He love this union better than you do, in consequences which surroud us. You go into one of our new settlements—in .Kansas, Nebraska, Illinois, or any of any of them-and there you will find that a North Carolinian equality of all tho States of the Confederacy. (Applause.) But I claim that I have the right to go to tho territories and to carry my property with me and hold it there, and to nave it protected on the same terms that you have in the slaveholding States. ("Good.") But upon what terms, 1 ask, can I carry my property into tho territories ? I carry it there subject to the local law. If I am a dea. ler in cattle, in horses, in sheep, in stock of of any kind, 1 carry my property subject to the law. If I am a dealer in dry goods, 1 go to tho territories subject to the local law. If I find the local tax heavier on peddlers than on the regular merchants, I must either pay tho tax or quit peddling. ("Good, that's right.") If I am a dealer in groceries and li-quors, i must carry my liquors there subject to the local law, and I had better enquire what that local law is before I start, and if, on enquiry, I ascertain that the Maine liquor law is in force there, I think I had better car-ry my liquor somewhere else, and seek a bet-ter market for it. (Good.) The Northern man goes into the territories with his proper-ty subject to the local laws of the territories as the people may have made those laws through their local legislatures. Are you not willing to go on the same terms? (Cries of "yes, we were always willing— we never askod more.") Do you claim more than is granted to us? ("No.no.") You may go there also and carry your slaves with you subject to the local laws in the same wav that 1 can carry my goods. Equality ot rights \, the principle, and obedience to the local law is the only condition upon which any man can go into the territories of tbe United States with safety. 1 know that there is a class of politicians who are in the habit of tell-ing you that Congress will not grant you pro-tection for your slave property in the terri-tories, aud Congress will not. When did simple right of every people to make their own laws, and establish their own constitu-tions according to their own interests, with-out interference from any person outside their own borders—that is all it is. Is not that a sound principle ? Why there are two classes of politicians who tell you that it is very unsound. Who ara they? First, the Northern Abolitionist and Black Republican think it very unsond. Tbey assert that it is the duty of Congress to prohibit slavery wher ever the people want it. That is the doc-trine of the Abolitionists. Tbey are in favor of Congress prohibiting it wherever it is ne-cessary, and they say that wherever it is not necessary tbe people do not want it, and that there the peoplo will exclude it themselves. Hence it is only necessary to say they are for Congress to prohibit and exclude slavery wherever the people do want it. There is another class of politicians who are in favor of Congress interfering in favor of slavery wherever necessary. They aro not lor inter-vention, however, except when necessary — When do they hold intervention necessary? Why it is clear that it is unnecessary to inter-fore to protect slavery where tho people are in favor of if, for in that case, they will pass laws to protect it themselves. For instance, New Mexico was in favor of slavery, and hence tho people, two years ago, passed a law in their local legislature establishing a very efficient slavo code, protecting slavery in tho territory. Honco, it is not necessary in the estimation of Southern Secessionists, to pro-tect it there, for the people wanting it will have it, and will protect it themselves. It is only necessary, they say, for Congress to in-terfere and protect slavery wherever the peo-ple do not want it, and therefore will not protect it themselves. Thus you find that in this country there are two parties in favor of federal intervention. The Black Republi-cans of the North and the Secessionists and Disunionistu of tho South agree in respect to the power and duty of Congress to control the slavery question in the territories. They agree that Congress ma}- control it and that the people of territory ought not to be per-mitted to do so. Agreeing that far, they differ on this point, as to what way Congress ought to control it. While the Northern fa-natics say that Congress must control the question as against the South, the Southern Secessionists say it must be controlled as against the North. Each party appeals to the passions, the prejudices, the ambition of bis own section, against the peace and har-mony of the whole eountry. Now. suppose you acquiesced in tbe demand of this South-ern Secessionist party and allov I ihctn to rally the whole people of till tin Southern States under a Southern intervention and suppose wo Democrats ol the Nor h should be craven-spirited enough to yield to the demand of a dominant majority in our own section, and join in the cry of Northern intervention against slavery, and then rally every Northern man under that banner.— Then you have two sections of this Union sep-arated, with a broad line between them, eve-ry Southern man on one side, and every Northern man on the other, both abusing each other. Now, what is your Union worth after that is accomplished ? Remember that tho Union cannot survive the affections of tho people, upon whom it rests. Whenever you have alienated the Northern and South-ern men, whenevoryou have separated them so far that they cannot belong to the same political party and the same church, and can-not commune in tho House of God at the same communion table, your Union is very nearly dissolved. This sectionolism has reached this point. It has reached the House of God, and separated tho members of the same church. That good old church within which I was born and Teared, tho old church in which my father and mother, my grand-father and my grandmother, and my ances ters for many generations were in the habit of communing, separated into a church North and South, and when we travel from one side of the lino to tho other, we aro not permitted to go to the communion table. And what has produced this estrangement ? It is the agitation of tho slavery question in the halls of Congress. What good has been accom-plished for any body by the agitation ? what beuefit has been conferred on the white man '! what benefit has been conferred on the black man by this agitation ? it has alienated friend irom friend ; you have rallied section against section by it; you have spread mis-chief, and dissension, and heart-burnings, without any redeeming or corresponding ad-vantage. What is the remedy for this state of things ? I answer, the remedy is to ban-ish tho slavery question from the halls of Congress ; remand it to the people of the ter-ritories and of the States. Let tho people make just such laws as they choose, so that they do not violate the Constitution of tho country. If they should pass a law in viola-tion ot the Constitution, the Supremo Court is tho only tribunal on earth that can ascertain and decide that fact. (Applause.) If you go to a territory, and when you get there you do not like tbeir laws, and you think that a particular statute is unconstitutional, all vou have to do is, to make out a case under the law as to have the question tried in tbe ter-ritorial courts, appeal to the Supreme Court of tho United States, and there get your case decided, and if the court decide that the law is unconstitutional, there is an end of it—it cannot bo enforced. On the contrary, if it be Clodded that the statute complained of is constitutional, it must stand till the peoplo of the territories get tired of it, and uavi enough to change it. If the peopli n territories make oad laws, let them suri der them till thoy get wise enough to make good ones, il they make good laws, let enjoy all the avvantages ot tbeir good law Let us act upon this principle, and there can ' be peace between the North and the South. I affirm to you that the Democratic party is pledged by its honor, its organization, its plat-form and its principles, to this doctrine of non-intervention by Congress with slavery in the territories. (Applause.) What man will America, except among tbe Black Republi-cans of the North. I appeal to you, my fel-low- citizens ot North Carolina, without dis-tinction of party, to tell mo whether every Democratic speaker in tho Stato did not tell you that your rights, your honor, your equal-ity in the Union, depended upon maintaining the doctrine of non-intervention by Congress with the question of slavery, as affirmed in the Democratic platform ? Now they tell you that this doctrine, which they taught you to believe, and making you believe, to carry the State by a large majority for Buchanan, they now tell you that this doctrine, taught and preached lour yours ago, is little better than Black Republicanism. I stand to-day, where I stood when these Secessionists eulo-gised mo as the best friend the South ever had. "(That's so.") I defy them to show where I have changed a hair's breadth, and wh'jn I have heretofore defied them face to face to show it, the only answer they could make was, that I was too consistent and would not change. (Laughter and applause.) No, I would not change merely because pres-idents and caucuses, hacked by extensive pa-tronage, said that I must. (Applause and cries of "good."—"that's right.") It is as much my right aud duty to think and judge myself as it is for the President to do it for himself. (Right.) I do not recognise the right of tho executive department to interfere with the action or speech of any member of the Senate or member of the Mouse of Rep-resentatives. (Applause.) So long as the President chooses to confine himself to the performance of his duties in obedience to tho Constitution, I will sustain him to the utmost in his right to a free and independent action. But whenever the Executive is permitted to say to a Senator or a Representative of a sov-ereign State, abandon your convictions, be-tray your constituents, do as I say, or 1 will remove yoc from office, and behead every friend you Lave in office throughout the coun tr}-; whenever it is permitted to do that with impunity, 'hen the Republic is but a sham and a mockesry. (Applause.) There is no freedom, there can be no liberty, when the representative of the people is not responsi-ble to his constituents instead of to executive power. (A voice—"It is despotism.") Yes, the worst of all despotisms is when the Exe-cutive can say to a man, violate your con-science, bo tray your constituents, and follow me, or I will remove from office every f.iend you have got. and defeat you at home through executive patronage. I speak with sorno feeling on the subject. (Applause.) I have had some experience. I have been under the necessity in my lifetime of lighting Abolition is'.s and Black Republicans, aided and sup-ported by ■ Democratic administration with power and patronage. For three yei every federal office-holder in Illinois has been required to oppose the Democratic aud support the Black Republican ticket, as pie to do just as they pleased both sides of 36° 30'. I assert that if tho people of a Ter-ritory want slavery they have a right to it, if they do not want it, no power on earth should force it on them. I go further and say that whether tbe people will want it or not, depends solely upon the climate, the soil, the productions and the self-interest of the peo-ple where it exists. In a hot climate where tho white man cannot work in tho open sun, where Rice, tho Cotton plant and tho Sugar cano flourish there, you must have negro slaves to work them or you must abandon the country to the crocodile. In a cold cli-mate where you have almost perpetual snow and where the nrgro could not produce by his labor halt as much as would feed and clothe him and furnish him wood to bake his hoecake at night, you cannot force slavery to exist, because it will not pay for itself. Slav-ery, therefore, does not depend upon the law. It is governed by climate, soil and productions by political economy, and you might as well attempt to pass laws by Congress compelling Cotton to grow on the summit of the H >cky mountains, or rice to llouriib on tho granite hills of Now Hampshire. (Laughter ami ap of tho Carolina?. They knew thai th" regu-lations noccssary in a ininning district like California would In- unsuued to the wheat and corn fields of lllinoi-. Hence tbey pr<»- vided that each State should retain us own sovereignty, with a Logmlature of itsowo, in order that each might have just such laws as it chose. This right, therofore, of each State to have laws different from every other one, lies at the very foundation of our system of government. Uniformity, regardleus of tho wants & conditions of tbo people, is the worst dispolism you can inflict upon any peo, le Well, the Abolitionists of tho North and the Secessionists of the South, admit that th,. doctrine of tho right of each Stato to regu-late and decide for itself, is a good doctrine iu the States, but will not do in the Territories. They admit that in the States you have an inherent right to govern j'ourselves, but you lose it when yor. go to the territories. Why not allows Territory to do it as well as s Stale. Why, they tell you that a Territory is not a sovereign power, und therofore rau-not do it; that Done out sovereign power* have a right to «X< the privileges of seli-govenunenL Our farhers of the revolution plause,) as slavery to exist where it cannot did not thinks* dutionary straggle in defence oi the right of dependent • olonies, dependent territories, dnpnn'dstllj possibly exi.-t. (Applause.) ! toll you that wherever climate renders slavery necc there it will go, and furthermore, tin; p il ■ of a territory will be the first to introduce it and pass all Laws for iis protection, but when-ever the climate renders it unprofitable and no money can he made out it' it, there yon cannot force il to go, I care not how many you have, or how many armies to enforce those laws. Hence I said in my Freepori sp eel, that no matter bow the Court might d< i ids the abstract act, that practically slavery will not go where tho peoplo do not warn it, for it would not be praticable. That is what I said, ami that is all I said, and thai has been tortured into a declaration liiat 1 would noi obey the decisions of the Supreme Court i I the United Stales. I iik- to bi charilab! but I believe that he, let hirn be w.ioliemay, who has represented me as saying I would not obey the Dred Scott decision, or any other decision of the Supreme Court, did know that ho was perverting and misrepre Benting my whole idea. (Cries of "good" and applause.) I have made more speeches than any living man in the defence of the Dred Scott decision astoronouneed by the Court, and I am as ready as any man toenfoico the decrees of the Court and to put the halter aroun i the neck ol all men who wish to rev u-tiiuted au thoriti i le land. [Groal applause. A voice, "Hura for Douglas *) i Jo not desire to be misunderstood on luese questions. I am being hunted down by a bodj ol men who four years ago endorsed mo, every man ot them knowing that 1 held the same opinions then that 1 iio now. There is not a living man with intelligence enough to venture away a condition to holding his office, and even yet lrom homo alone who does not know that 1 in tho Northern States, and from one end of1 the land to the other, every office-holder is removed, unless he works against the regu-1 lar organization ot the party. You aro told now that there is danger of Sir. Lincoln being elected President, and that his election would have held these sentiments foi years. (Cries of "good," laughter and applause.") 1 have come down here now to meet you lace to face and to utter these opinions just as 1 expressed them in the Northern Stales; and ill order to prevent them lrom misrepresenting me any be such a calamity that it would become your j more, 1 have invited a friend of minet) take duty to dissolve the Union rather than sub-mit to his domination. What hope ot an election has Mr. Lincoln ? None on earth, except through the assistance rendered by the Seceders at Baltimore. (Cheers and cries of "good.") After I was nominated there ac-cording to the usages cf the party, by two-thirds of all the votes cast, there being pres-ent two-thirds of the .electoral college not ob-jecting, these men bolted and got up a new convention. Now let me ask you, is there a down every word and syllable as it falls from my lips and without any revision or my see-ing it, to hand it over to your papers here, if they will publish it, in order that the people North and South may sec whether I do not explain my doctrines in the South precisely as 1 have explained them in tho North. A Voice. We have no organ here but one. .Mr. Duuylas. It is stated that ray friends have no organ here, but one. I do not care how often I may make man in America who doubts that I would speeches in the Senate correcting the misrep-have beaten Lincoln, if the Breckinridgc men resentations, they aro never published h had acquiesced in my nomination? (Ap-plause.) Nobody doubts that Lincoln could never have carried but two States in the Un-ion, Vermont and Massachusetts, but for that Occasion. What was their object in bolting? Was it not to beat me ? (Voices, "yes.") If it was did they not know that the only way to do it was to divide the D ere. Why ? Certain gentlemen have made charges to the contrary, and it would convict them if it acquitted me. I hold no opinions on these public questions that I wish io conceal any.vhere, for I hold that so long as we live uodi :• a constitution w Inch is common to all the States of the Union, any political creed e tne Democratic party is radically wrong which cannot be avowed in the Northern States and allow Lincoln to i alike id all the States oi this Union. carry each one of those States by a minority j Why cannot you of the South and the vote ? The secession took place for the pur-' North, live in peace together nnder this con-pese ot defeating me and by the party electing Lincoln. the division in There was not a man ot liiem engaged in the scheme wiio did not expect that bis act was to elect Lincoln. There could be no other expectation, no oth-er motive, no other hope, and I have never seen a man yet who would risk his reputa-by denying that Li stitution, as our fathers made it? reason is that I hen - i ittempt to ■ uniformity, through action ol the Federal Government in the local and domestic insti-tutions of lii- States. Mr. Abraham Lincoln, now the Black Republican candidate for the Psesident, when some two years agoa candi-tion by Lincoln would l.ave date for tiic United Slates Senate against, me. been beaten but tor this division and that the i commenced hi.-| ipening s.ieech with this pi op-danger ot his election grows out of it. Then ' osition. 1 will try to give Ins precise Ian, how do they justify their course ? Why they i guage, or as near as lean from recollection, say it is better to have Lincoln elected than ; and 1 believel have quoted the passage a Douglas. Why? Why, they do not like thousand times lie said,'-that a house divi- Douglas. They do not like his platform.— del against itself cannot stand, this govern Why do they not like the platform ? Because ' mint divided into free and slave Stales can- I stand now on the very platform on which they stood four years ago. And what confi-dence can you have in the integrity, in the truthfulness, in the honor of a .nan who will abuse the Charleston platform now, alter he supported it four years ago? Were they cheat-ing you then ! Wero '.hey deceiving you at that time to get your votes ? If they were, how much confidence should you place in them now ? (Cheers.) If they wero honest then, it does not become them to abuse those of us who do not change quite as rapidly as they have done. (Great applause.) I stand now where I then stood. I stand where I Stood when I brought forward the bill to re the Missouri restriction and organize the I Kansas and Nebraska. They aud do not pretend that 1 have ohang- But they have started a story I learn. down here that I went home and d the Nebraska bill in a different Congress ever pass a law to protect any par-ticular class of property in the territories?— j be bold enough to deny the fact that"every Congress never yet passed a criminal code for | Democrat in America up to the present year, an organized territory on the American con- j was pledged to tho doctrine of non-interven- tinent. Murder is a crime in the territories, | tion ? Read tho platform of tho party that nominated Cass iu 184S, Pierce in 1852, and Buchanan in 1856. Thore you find tho doc-not under any act of Congress, but by the territorial law. And so with every crime against the person or property of a citizen, I trine of non-intervention by Congress with no matter where. You are told that this is ■ slavery- in the territories of the United States Squatter Sovereignty. Just such Squatter i Is this not so ? What then has produced this Sovereignty as was established in North Car- j sudden change? Non-intervention was a orllna by the men who put forth tho Declar- I good doctrine four years ago-intorvention w,., unu imu a xonn Carolinian ation of Independence, and drove the agents is necessary now. Four years ago there was settled down by the side ot a Cnonecticut of George 111 from the continent. It is the no intervention with the slavery question fn not permanently endure, that either Slavery must oe extended to all the States or it must be plan d in the course ol ultimate extinction in all the Statos, they must become all tree or all slavo." Now, that was his proposition. I replied to that speech the moment 1 got home. I took bold issue with Mm, and made the can-vass ol" Illinois, on that proposition and oi e other. Tho other was, be assailed the Su reme Court decision, in th.- L)r d Scott case, ire luo two is battle. Mr Sewaiilinadelii.se. ebl I ..—ter speech four months afterward iu .Inch he pat forth the doo«rine ol the irreprcssibl conflict, bor-rowing it from Lincoln, n*l ..s the aathoi and ci.unc rator of thai pri cinle, that "the 1 nion cannot exist, divided into free and slave Slates, but must become all free, or all The Blu-k Republican party is based i and 1 defended it. 'fI sues, upon which v. fi stave I had South, and said that it on the theory of making them all freeSta the Secesson party ia based on ihe thi >rv that tho Territories and consequently tl.. States must all bo slave, whether the people want them so or not. I hold to the doctrine that uniformity in the domestic inatitutions of the different States is neither possible or desirable. Slavery may bo good in one place was the beet abolition bill ever got up to pro-hibit slavery everywhere. I have tried to find out where I ever mado such a speech, but ihose who made tho charge do not name the place. I now say that no honest man will ever make such a charge: (Cheers.) It is an invention of the enemy, and has been circulated by the mean author who knew it to be false or had no reasan for believing it to be true. (Applause.) 1 will tell you what explanation I havo mado in every Northern State of my motives for passing tbe the Ne-braska bill and repealing the Missouri Com-promise. I have sustained that act by tho argument that if slavery was right South, it was right North, if it was right to leave tho people to do as thoy pleased South ot tho Missouri Compromise line, it was right North of tho line. My object was to allow the peo-and bad in another. It may be necessary ii one State,and unnecessary in another Anil bo with every Other domestic institution.— Our fathers knew whin they made this gov- i eminent that in ■ country as broad as this, I with such a variety of soil, of climate, and of ' productions, there must necessarily be a cor-responding variety ot interests requiring sep-arate and different laws in each locality. They knew that the laws which would "suit tho granite hills of New Hampshire would bo unsuitod to the rico and tobacco plantations provinces, to exercise tbia right ol self-eminent M well as sovereign Suites. None but the Tories of the revolution ever comer-tied before that the right ot sell-govoriimeiii was to Oe restricted to sovereign Stales.-— Qeorgetho Third and Lord North, his Mm-isier, and his Tory friends on this continent, all denied the right ol the people el these colonies to regulate their own affairs. Tbei all said that tho people of the colonies had no rights except those the King granted them in tbeir character. Tho same old doctrine. Our lathers ot the Revolution told the Tories thai they di lot get their rights from the King, !>ui i y got them from l«od Almighty. lice, "a better source.") And the people or the Territories will be likely to tell you th.\ they do not get their rights from Con-;re*s, they get them from a purier source. (Laugh-ter and applause.) From what I have said you will see that unless lam right in main-taining this principle of selt-governmeuit foi the people of the territories, ..ur fathers of the revolution must have been w oi.g in that «t niggle. Therei« no ue irgumcnt u <■■! v the Bcceasioi i t- ngainl aqua I r novelt'lgo ty,"a- they leriu t, that they have not co pied from the tories el the revolution in al-most its identical language. (Voice, "good," upplaus**.) But of course these gentle-men are very sincere in denouncing this doc-trine of r jn-interfenc by Congress. I wish they had been frank enough to dentmnce it before tuey hud joined me in helping Io sus-tain it. Tiioy knew when they adopted the Cincinnati plaifora that toil ws •• Read that plailorm. it dec i words, non interfiraos byCon very in ihe States and 'IV i—tor,every friend 1 had fron 'h »\ esi offered to take the < , , mi word t .-r word, as it read. Th * J not take it. Tbey aaid il was not goo : D - mocracy. How oasM lha ■ form to '•" uiloptcd in IKiO, if it was uot sound ? You know that it was adopted at the suggestion of the Ala-bama Legislature, on four proposi-tionsdrawn by Mr. Yancey, and wheii'introdu-ced into the Cincinnati Convention, received tho votes of delegates from every State in tho . Unien, free and slave. The South proposed it, aud we of the North said it is fair and just, and we will take it. It was a loptcd by a unanimous vote, and four years after, you are told that a man is a trailer to tho South who stands by the pledgo wo all made at Cinci-nnati. There is something strange about this. 1 cannot change as rapidly as that — (Applause.) If the Democratic party will stand now where they did then, there would bo no trouble. In order to get out of the scrape, these men havo turned round and charged me with having said I would not stand by thj Dred Boott decision. 1 tell hen now that en r make* that, charge hereafter will km bait falsifying the truth. Th«n, whal is tbecauseof ihe*trooMe in the Den. ici rtj ' it is an attsMB to introduce a new article of faith into the Democratic creed, in direct violation of tin former creed cf tho party. Itis an attempt t ingain introduce this slavery question i • tho balls nt Congress, and have Congrats de-cide it So long as that question remains in Congre.-s. there never will be peace; and if we expect to live together, we must agree to banish this whole subject lrom Congrats, re-mand it to the people interested HI it, andb I the Supremo Court explain the Constitution in reference to snob caseasitarisos; then we will have peace. A gentleman here said : There is in tho inintisof a largo portion ol the conservatiro people ol the Southern States an apprehei-sion that iho purpose ot a certain class ol ex-treme poliMcians ot tbe South, is to provoke a division of tho Democratic party upon tins question of the plailorm for the purpose of* electing Lincoln and thereby, without tut overt act on his part, effect a disolution tl the Union. I desire to atk Judge Doupla respectful,, to give to the audience all i evidence bebas in reference to thw parpu* oi these parties, and as we have heard that h was called out ul Norfolk, by Un Elector ■ the Sec.deis ticket, to giv« his opinion* I his course at a Senator in the event of silt'. dissolution, wo desire In a lo repeat it heie. as we intend to ask Mr lire e kin ridge wbai his course would be also, being a Senator ol the United States after the I'.i '.it March, I860. Mr. Douglas, i pen the point presented i i the first suggestion : 1 have no evidence in respect to the designs and purposes ol tho Seceders. which I am in libertt to IIS", ex-cept that .'■ bicb is known to the wiol rnrl 1 know thai Lincoin bat DO ■ \, ow ol ho| . • i be ,, , ; Kinndge men succeed in d . orasio party, and en by el. a mii.on y vote that 1 .si.on..,.. . ., that I rcckiuridg ing, on tneotii i. , :. should decline IIMI 1U, , would b elected. i'»h>, u.en the track, unless it is iu'al Lincoln elected. Then tbo tirst lime 1 placed my foot on Virginia soil during this canvass, I am asked by tbo head man on tho Electoral ticket—the man who leads the tit ket—whs er, in the event of Lincoln being elected, the Southern Slates would be jus-tied in diasolv-ing tho Union ; and whether 1 would go for enforcing tho law in tho event of the Southern ,.■..- . ■ uiuy he |